Raw Supershow becoming 3 hours permanently

[Sabretooth]

John Cena tweeted the following message regarding a major change to WWE's flagship Monday night show.

"STARTING Monday Night July 23 @USA_NETWORK WILL BE ADDING A 3RD HOUR TO @WWE MONDAY NIGHT RAW - PERMANENTLY. #3hourRaw"

The July 23rd show will be RAW's 1,000th episode.

The announcement of RAW moving to 3-hours every week is now on WWE.com as well.

It was recently reported that WWE's weekly RAW tapings would be starting close to an hour earlier - and this news explains why. No word yet on whether the extra hour will be the rumored RAW pre-show.

Credit to pwpix.net


Oh this just can't go well

[Fuji Vice]

I can't even sit through two hours of their Monday night crap and they're going to add a third? Oh, WWE, you make me laugh.

[Citan]

I can't barely get past the first hour. WCW tried to implement the 3-hour format for Nitro, but it ended up with mixed results. Why would it be any different for Raw?

[The Viper]

Didn't necessarily work for Nitro in 99-00..........


.....I'm sure it'll work for Raw in 2012. >.>

But I am looking forward to seeing if they don't treat it like their 3 hour Raw specials lately. All filler, no killer.

[Fuje Vise]

I can't barely get past the first hour. WCW tried to implement the 3-hour format for Nitro, but it ended up with mixed results. Why would it be any different for Raw?

Actually worked wonders for Nitro. All the crap on it would have been on the two-hour show but the extra hour was usually undercard talent that never got to shine before.


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[Fuje Vise]

Didn't necessarily work for Nitro in 99-00..........


.....I'm sure it'll work for Raw in 2012. >.>

But I am looking forward to seeing if they don't treat it like their 3 hour Raw specials lately. All filler, no killer.

Read my above post. Also the three hours stopped once Russo took over so no 3-hour shows in 2000.


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[The Viper]

Read my above post. Also the three hours stopped once Russo took over so no 3-hour shows in 2000.


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Oh well whatevs. I saw an episode of Nitro that was 3 hours and it pretty painful. Felt like it just went on and on and on. I'm sorry. I know you love WCW but I just couldn't handle it :lol:

Although, not trying to sound biased or a WWE mark. This isn't the greatest decision in the world either but I'm optimistic.

[HEEL Blazy]

I like this honestly, I enjoy Raw lately and look forward to it each week so I'm all for it I don't care what any of the rest of you think on the deal.

[Sabretooth]

Maybe they'll actually devote some time to the lower card. Hell maybe they'll bring back the cruiserweight title. There's enough talent. I don't even try to predict WWE anymore so we will see where this leads

[Fuje Vise]

Oh well whatevs. I saw an episode of Nitro that was 3 hours and it pretty painful. Felt like it just went on and on and on. I'm sorry. I know you love WCW but I just couldn't handle it :lol:

Although, not trying to sound biased or a WWE mark. This isn't the greatest decision in the world either but I'm optimistic.
I'm sure it did but if you cut the third hour off of one of those shows you watched, it would have been the Norman Smiley match or the Fit Finley match or the Ultimo Dragon match that gets cut, I guarantee you would've been bored anyway.

[Fuji Vice]

Maybe they'll actually devote some time to the lower card. Hell maybe they'll bring back the cruiserweight title. There's enough talent. I don't even try to predict WWE anymore so we will see where this leads

Bringing the Cruiserweight title would be almost as dumb as bringing back the Hardcore title. They don't need more belts that don't get any respect on the show, they need less.

[Sabretooth]

Bringing the Cruiserweight title would be almost as dumb as bringing back the Hardcore title. They don't need more belts that don't get any respect on the show, they need less.


Bringing back the title will give the undercard some TV time.


Starting with the historic 1,000th episode of Raw on July 23, The WWE Universe will have new ways to get involved in the show through WWE.com and social media by deciding matches, stipulations, Superstar development and more.

Wwe.com

Yeah so the universe gets to decide everything and the creative team will just go along with what the viewers want. Oh boy this should be good

[Fuje Vise]

Bringing the Cruiserweight title would be almost as dumb as bringing back the Hardcore title. They don't need more belts that don't get any respect on the show, they need less.
Why do people always hate on the Cruiserweight title? :lol:

[Sabretooth]

Why do people always hate on the Cruiserweight title? :lol:

They're all better wrestlers than half the fucking roster. :lol: but seriously WWE has enough talent to do it

[Fuji Vice]

Bringing back the title will give the undercard some TV time.


Um, the undercard already has tv time, its called NXT. Now that its merged with FCW they'll get even more chance to be exposed. They also have more than enough for the new guys on Raw and SD to do and they certainly don't need another title. It doesn't always have to be about title and to be honest, WWE doesn't really give a crap about them anyhow. They aren't even referred to as "belts" anymore (by way of an edict from Vince).



Why do people always hate on the Cruiserweight title?

I don't hate on the title, I just know full well what will happen if it comes back. It will be all "ooh and ahh" for two month's before it ends up on Hornswoggle.

[Fuje Vise]

Um, the undercard already has tv time, its called NXT. Now that its merged with FCW they'll get even more chance to be exposed. They also have more than enough for the new guys on Raw and SD to do and they certainly don't need another title. It doesn't always have to be about title and to be honest, WWE doesn't really give a crap about them anyhow. They aren't even referred to as "belts" anymore (by way of an edict from Vince).


I don't hate on the title, I just know full well what will happen if it comes back. It will be all "ooh and ahh" for two month's before it ends up on Hornswoggle.
Then the problem is with booking. If they didn't have their heads up their asses, it's a great thing to have.

TNA wouldn't be the same without their X Division.

[Fuji Vice]

Then the problem is with booking. If they didn't have their heads up their asses, it's a great thing to have.

TNA wouldn't be the same without their X Division.

You and I both know exactly what kind of booking would result out of the CW Title coming back and all roads point to Hornswoggle winning the thing.

Again, I'd rather see them commit to things like the tag titles before adding other belts that they aren't going to commit to.

[Fuje Vise]

You and I both know exactly what kind of booking would result out of the CW Title coming back and all roads point to Hornswoggle winning the thing.

Again, I'd rather see them commit to things like the tag titles before adding other belts that they aren't going to commit to.
It isn't about a title, it's about having a division. Most lightweights will never be main event players so they just jerk the curtain until Vince is bored with 'em and it's sad. But these lightweight divisions give them a place on the card to shine. That's just my stance on this. But I wasn't saying they needed to do this, I was just playing devil's advocate because so many are against it.

P.s. I'd love a tag team renaissance. I miss good tag team wrestling. In the 'E anyway.

[Fuji Vice]

It isn't about a title, it's about having a division. Most lightweights will never be main event players so they just jerk the curtain until Vince is bored with 'em and it's sad. But these lightweight divisions give them a place on the card to shine. That's just my stance on this. But I wasn't saying they needed to do this, I was just playing devil's advocate because so many are against it.

P.s. I'd love a tag team renaissance. I miss good tag team wrestling. In the 'E anyway.

Aren't the CW's getting their own show on WWE Network whenever it launches? I seem to recall hearing that somewhere.

[Fuje Vise]

Aren't the CW's getting their own show on WWE Network whenever it launches? I seem to recall hearing that somewhere.

They could be. And I'd love it.


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[NovaRoad]

Isn't a major complaint of the WWE that they misuse or underuse their undercard and the belts that go along with it? Do you honestly think the WWE will give more TV time to those guys? Hell no! We're getting an extra hour of stupid Santino-type shit.

Before the WWE adds titles, they need to make the Tag belts important again, at the very least.

[Sabretooth]

It gives the CW's something to fight for. Do you think tyson Kidd will ever be world champion. Of course not. It gives him a belt that means a lot to him. He represents the lower card and shows they're important

[Fuji Vice]

It gives the CW's something to fight for. Do you think tyson Kidd will ever be world champion. Of course not. It gives him a belt that means a lot to him. He represents the lower card and shows they're important

What part of "the WWE doesn't give a shit about the titles they have right now" aren't you understanding here?

[Sabretooth]

What part of "the WWE doesn't give a shit about the titles they have right now" aren't you understanding here?

So fuck the US Title

[Fuji Vice]

So fuck the US Title

The US, IC and Tag Titles are all pretty meaningless right now, so again, why would you add another one to that mix? Fuck, they don't even really care that much about the two big titles. The WHC hasn't main evented a show in a long time and the WWE Title was an afterthought in the Punk/Jericho feud. In fact, Cena has main evented every PPV since the Royal Rumble and none of his matches were for the title.

[Sabretooth]

Cody Rhodes has brought legitimatecy back to the IC Title. The tag titles are starting to come back. Forget the US title and bring back the CW title

[Death Dealer]

Cody Rhodes has brought legitimatecy back to the IC Title. The tag titles are starting to come back. Forget the US title and bring back the CW title

No he hasn't. Big Show, a former multi-time World Champ, crying after winning it at Mania put the belt over more in that moment than Cody ever did in like 7 months.

[The Viper]

No he hasn't. Big Show, a former multi-time World Champ, crying after winning it at Mania put the belt over more in that moment than Cody ever did in like 7 months.

This x1000

And I'm not even a fan of Show.

[Death Dealer]

This x1000

And I'm not even a fan of Show.

Yeah while his month long reign was useless, the initial winning of it made the title feel huge.

[Sabretooth]

Yeah while his month long reign was useless, the initial winning of it made the title feel huge.

How did it make it feel huge

[Death Dealer]

How did it make it feel huge

Can't read?

[Kushikimi]

How did it make it feel huge

For that moment, the title seemed like it really meant something to someone... to the point of crying about achieving that goal. That made the title feel huge in that moment.

[Fuje Vise]

Cody hate = no sold from me.


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[Death Dealer]

Cody hate = no sold from me.


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You know I loves me some Cody Rhodes but other than a sweet design change he did fuck all for the belt.

[Fuje Vise]

You know I loves me some Cody Rhodes but other than a sweet design change he did fuck all for the belt.
He changed the design of the belt to the old school belt which at the time was a secondary world title, cut numerous promos and interviews on why the IC title was so important to him and to the company and held it longer than the average Joe. Had Show not taken it off him, he may have broken a record for the longest reign since the 2000's began. He did a lot for that belt. Show holding that belt for a month was not more than what Rhodes was doing.

[Kushikimi]

Cody hate = no sold from me.


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I have no problem with Cody... but the fact that he held the title for that long... and someone else felt like it was a goal that was worth 100% of his abilities... did wonders for the title Cody by holding it and giving the title some value and Big Show for showing respect for the title's history.

In that sense, the IC title got a lot of importance in just one match.

[Sabretooth]

Exactly. Yeah Big Show crying was important. But it was more for him getting his WM moment than it was winning the title. Cody Rhodes carried the belt with pride and honor. He loved it and never wanted to let it go. He did whatever it took to keep it. That gave it value. Someone crying over it doesn't give it more value than holding it for 8 months and loving it

[NovaRoad]

It gives the CW's something to fight for. Do you think tyson Kidd will ever be world champion. Of course not. It gives him a belt that means a lot to him. He represents the lower card and shows they're important

It's not that I don't think Tyson Kidd should fight for a title that would mean something to him, because I truly feel that all the superstars should be working towards a championship. What good, though, is having a title to fight for when the WWE isn't going to showcase it or give it the attention it would need for anyone to give a flying piss that Tyson Kidd is busting his ass to win it? Tyson Kidd's been down that road before with the tag titles. If you recall, it was around the time the Hart Dynasty was the World Tag champs and getting super over that the WWE decided it just didn't care about the tag division all that much anymore.

[Kushikimi]

Exactly. Yeah Big Show crying was important. But it was more for him getting his WM moment than it was winning the title. Cody Rhodes carried the belt with pride and honor. He loved it and never wanted to let it go. He did whatever it took to keep it. That gave it value. Someone crying over it doesn't give it more value than holding it for 8 months and loving it

It adds value... because it shows the title means something to someone. If the titles doesn't mean anything to anyone... well that's just a waste of space.

[Sabretooth]

It adds value... because it shows the title means something to someone. If the titles doesn't mean anything to anyone... well that's just a waste of space.

No I said someone crying doesn't give it more value than... I didn't say it doesn't give it any value

[Kushikimi]

No I said someone crying doesn't give it more value than... I didn't say it doesn't give it any value

How come that it doesn't give it more value and at the same time it gives value? If it adds value... then IT GIVES IT MORE VALUE. Simple Math...

[Sabretooth]

Holding the title for a long time gives it more value than crying over it

[King James]

Sounds good to me. Their move to WWE Network is going to call for more time to be filled up, so this is one way to fill time. With it now being 3 hours, it can be a true supershow, actually hosting more than one or two SD feuds at a time and featuring superstars from all across the WWE brand. Maybe we'll see some NXTers from time to time even. Not to mention the extra hour is just yet another hour to build guys like Sandow, Cesaro, and Ryback, as well as those we can assume will be debuting soon. Like Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose of course.

Plus I love wrestling. Simply love it. I'll watch it wherever I can get it, whenever I can get it. The extra hour could feature chess matches at ringside with Greco Roman wrestling exhibitions, and I just might still watch it.

[Death Dealer]

Chess is pretty win.

[ChristianMiguel]

WWE having their own network first and foremost makes it the top wrestling company on the planet. TNA will never have that regardless how much they try to. Making it 3 hours will be spectacular... Next thing we know Smackdown will be 3 hours too and actually be live for once

[NovaRoad]

I think it's a seriously bad move. 3 hours is a long time, even with the Divas match pee break. I can't think of a 3 hour RAW in the last handful of years that wouldn't have benefitted from being trimmed of its fat and fit into a 2 hour show. The 2 hour RAWs can be excrutiatingly long too a lot of the time. I'm simply not convinced the WWE will use this extra hour appropriately.

[Cyrus Riddle]

I'm fine with a 3 hour Raw as long as they use the time properly. The extra hour immediately makes fans think that there is more potential for great shows, but I am still skeptical considering there aren't that many Raw Supershows that I have actually enjoyed recently. Part of it is the talent and the way they use it, the other is the lack of creativity and shine they give certain people. I'll have to see how it makes me feel when they have the first three hour show.

[The Linebacker]

I can only echo the concerned. 3 hour Raw's are a chore as it is, but putting up with it on a weekly basis? Honestly can't see myself watching an episode of Raw for the foreseeable future.

The viewers choice/social media stuff is amusing too. Since Taboo Tuesday/Cyber Sunday was such a huge success, you know?

As for the title debate, I'm with Fuji. There's no point adding more titles when the current ones aren't being utilised properly.

[Death Dealer]

Only title I wanna see added is one for NXT, other ones can fuck off.

[Max Lavoix]

I'd like to see a title in NXT too with the changes that are coming to the show.

[Max Lavoix]

At least with 3 hour shows, the midcard wrestlers will have more time to develop their character.


Sorry for making 2 posts instead of one...

[Cyrus Riddle]

Source: F4WOnline
- While WWE claims that the switch to three-hours for RAW is permanent, people within the company believe that the show will be back to two-hours before the end of the year - whether the first hour be dropped or moved to the WWE Network as a recap or pre-show going into the 9pm timeslot.
It's important to note that permanently moving RAW up would dramatically affect any West coast tapings. For example, shows in Los Angeles would have to start at 4:30pm on a work day.

A lot of people in the company have privately expressed dread at the move to three-hours.


Read more: http://www.WrestlingInc.com/wi/news/2012/0519/552747/#ixzz1vRQ3mlr2

Seems that it might not work out and they're starting to realize that internally as well. Does seem hard to pull of for the West Coast shows.

[Citan]

At least with 3 hour shows, the midcard wrestlers will have more time to develop their character.

When you need a 3 hour show to develop midcarders, something is wrong.